
Ok so this blog post is in fact not about Kim Kardashian West. For my first post of the semester, I thought I'd share some of my thoughts on Evelyn Nesbit. We talked about her a lot in class and I'm going to try to figure out what I think about her because at this point, I'm really not sure. She definitely reminded me of Kim Kardashian, though. A public figure who is viewed as a sex symbol and constantly scrutinized, even if she isn't even doing anything (similarly to Kim). Evelyn's "scandal" has made her quite famous and obviously alters the public's views of her (once again, think of Kim), and I think it's important that we view her story in this context. Her life isn't "normal" (whatever normal means), and I think she very badly needed to meet Tateh and little girl and get away from the limelight and be herself.
The way that Doctorow depicts Evelyn is so interesting to me. Everybody knows who she is and we often forget that famous people are still people. Doctorow seems to use this idea and gives Evelyn's character depth. We learn a lot about her and follow her on her trips to the Lower East Side, and I have to say that seeing an upper class woman who is often in the spotlight like this really makes me appreciate her as a character. Knowing what her life is like also makes me think that her excursions in the slums are ok. I don't think it's wrong for her to want an escape. Her life is hectic, and at least her escape is somewhat productive (at least in my eyes). She really does love being with Tateh and the little girl, and although she does want to give them charity, she truly cares about them, so I wouldn't say that she's being selfish and wanting only to fill a void in herself by doing so or rude by very clearly going against Tateh's wishes.
Although I see a lot of positive qualities in Evelyn, I can definitely see why some people think she's a creep. While I was reading I thought it was great that she wanted so badly to help Tateh and the little girl, but looking more closely at the book, it does seem really strange. I mean a lot of the scenarios in Doctorow's book seem strange, but I'll admit that thinking about this does kind of paint Evelyn as a stalker. We also mentioned that Evelyn's character, though frivolous on the surface, has depth and a political consciousness. But at the same time, it mentions that when she donates to charities, magazines, and other things that Emma Goldman introduced to her, but she feels no joy when doing this. I think it's nice that Evelyn is more aware, but her lack of passion sort of brings me back to the upper class persona that she shows the world, since she's essentially just throwing money around at these organizations and funds. Side note: I think it's really weird how she gets together with Younger Brother, especially considering how they met and looking forward to how she seemed to grow bored of him very quickly.
I like Evelyn overall, but it does seem like as the story continues, her character becomes less interesting. In the earlier chapters where she is with Tateh and little girl, I really like her and I don't think she's as problematic as some people think she is, but as the story goes on, I think she loses her depth and goes back to being superficial. What are your thoughts on Evelyn?
There were a lot of people in 8th hour who also brought up the fact that they way Evelyn romanticizes being with Tateh's little girl is kind of problematic. I'm inclined to agree with them, but only from my standpoint as an outsider; I totally get where her inclination comes from. I kind of think Evelyn Nesbit herself really does have a lot of love to give something or someone, but never had a way to safely... express that love? It's definitely kinda creepy (especially if we put ourselves in the shoes of Tateh), definitely overwhelming, but it comes from some semblance of a good place.
ReplyDeleteI like your comparison here of Evelyn to Kim, and it's interesting to see the similarities between this woman from the early 1900's and a celebrity of today. When we look at people like Kim Kardashian, or Marilyn Monroe, we often think about the superficial because that's what's covered in the news. Reading Doctorow's story on Evelyn's secret life in the slums definitely sets her apart from Kim, and I think her concern for the poor (even if it's expressed in an unusual way) makes me respect Evelyn a lot more than the "sex goddesses" that we've seen come after her.
ReplyDeleteI will admit that when Mr. Mitchell asked who we thought of when we thought of Evelyn my mind went straight to Kim too. I liked the way that you focused on the positive qualities of Evelyn in a way that our discussion seemed not to do. I still see Evelyn as somewhat shallow. I do see how Doctorow allowed us to see a deeper side of her but I don't think that that is her personality that is there all the time. Now we know that there can be a deeper side to her but it is not always shown.
ReplyDeleteI also thought Kim Kardashian! After reading about Harry K. Thaw's run through the train in tonight's reading, I definitely could see his crazy ass getting on stage during a VMA's acceptance speech, so maybe the comparison has even more depth than we thought! Anyway, I liked how you pointed out that Evelyn Nesbit has kind of run her course, and Doctrow has seemed to abandon her. I doubt that she'll come back in any significant way. He's made his point about the ambiguity of charity, perhaps, and now he's not going to return to her.
ReplyDeleteI like your connection to Kim K! (TBT to that time Kim tried to adopt a Thai orphan, but the girl said no) When we read this part I had a hard time understanding what Doctrow's view was. I really couldn't tell if Doctrow was being very ironic or depicting a real and meaningful change in Evelyn, but now that he's discarded her I think her philanthropic days were written to highlight the irony.
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